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good afternoon everybody and welcome to

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nasa's johnson space center for today's

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post mission management team briefing

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joining us once again is leroy kane he's

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the deputy manager of the space shuttle

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program and of course he also chairs the

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on-orbit mission management team meeting

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which is joint with the international

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space station program and all the other

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elements associated with atlantis

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mission to the iss uh leroy will have

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some opening comments and then we'll

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take questions here and out on the phone

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bridge so with that i'll turn it over to

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leroy okay thank you kyle

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it is uh my pleasure to be back here

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with you this afternoon and it's also my

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pleasure to tell you we've had another

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uh very good

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24 hours in space

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the all of the mplm operations went

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extremely smoothly the crew continues to

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be ahead of the timeline in pretty much

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every activity that they're

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executing on board and of course same

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thing with the team on the ground

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the

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space walk is tomorrow of course and we

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look forward to that and so the crew is

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finishing it up they'll do their final

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normal evening before spacewalk kind of

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preparations on board right now

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in the mmt today it was it was a kind of

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a big day for us we had a couple of of

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more significant items to disposition

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and then we course got our overall

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status and progress of as we normally do

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where the plus one day is concerned the

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uh the space station program did review

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that in the immt this morning and they

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brought in

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the entire list of activities that they

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would like to complete in a plus one day

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that list will change they will iterate

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on that but suffice it to to say it is a

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is a significant list of activities and

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it's um

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it's very clear to see that that it will

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not be a problem for us to keep the crew

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busy and doing very productive and

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useful and and much needed work on the

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station so

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we reviewed the cryogenics

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consumables from a shuttle standpoint

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and with the cryo h2 be the limiting

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consumable

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we are currently at one day six hours of

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to grow somewhere in the order of uh one

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to two hours a day

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for the remainder of the docked period

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we went around the room and and talked

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to each one of the uh

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the projects and elements and the

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members of the mission management team

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recommendation and uh

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everyone was

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was go to to add a day i personally

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didn't have any problems seeing that

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this is exactly the right thing to do

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on this mission there's a lot of good

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work that we can help the space station

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if we had more time to give them we we

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probably would do that as well

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approved the one uh the plus one day and

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so we're currently at

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13 plus zero plus two days is is our

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mission as it stands today and i expect

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to have somewhere between six and eight

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hours of margin above that

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by about this time

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tomorrow the other item that we talked a

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lot about was the dat results the damage

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assessment team came in and gave us

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their results and

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they only had five items a total of five

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that they were reviewing

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and four of those items are associated

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with blankets and they're very very

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items the one item the one other item

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damage site and it was

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relatively minor also

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to recommend that we do not need any

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focused inspection

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uh when i was here yesterday i think i

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told you that we have

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uh the leading edge support system team

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the wing leading edge team that is to

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say the folks that worry about the the

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wing leading edge and the nose cap all

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of the rcc the things that we inspect on

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they have no issues

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while we did not have our final overall

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assessment of all of the tps and the mmt

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today i anticipate we'll do that

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and i'm anticipating no issues

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but in the meantime we did approve

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the decision for no focused inspection

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so there will be no focus inspection

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needed and so that's really good news

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and all of the work that has gone into

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the work that we've done on the external

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to preclude the generation of debris

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and if you look at sort of the proof in

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the pudding now the vehicle atlantis on

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the minimal damage

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because it's it's almost non-existent

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damage to only have one side on the on

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the underside tiles that has any kind of

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indication at all in and of itself it is

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extremely minor

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um i think speaks volumes for the work

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that this team has done in the last

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several years

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we have been tireless

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and very committed at ensuring that we

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continued to improve and that we

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continued to evolve and we continued to

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learn and we continued to be determined

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each and every flight was going to be

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safer than the next flight and we were

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very determined to finish strong and i

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think at least for the launch ascent and

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orbit insertion portion of this mission

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the performance itself of the vehicle

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the systems

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on orbit now and as well as uh uh the

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teams on the ground i think speaks

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volumes for itself and so

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uh a very hearty congratulations was in

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order at the mmt and and

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and so uh that's some of what i talked

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to the team about today i want them to

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pause and think about

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all of the hard work that they've put

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into these systems in the last several

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years and they can feel very very proud

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we're experiencing some weather in

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florida and i look out and i see some

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folks who know exactly what i'm talking

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the we are having some rain and some

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lightning and and so that delays our

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operations the slip operations as well

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as uh leading on to open assessment of

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the boosters so

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all of that has been delayed about a day

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it was reported that it's still possible

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that we might get the srb video

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data from the boosters sometime tomorrow

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and of course if we do then then we

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bring that and process it and

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and kyle and the public affairs team

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will have that available to you as soon

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as they're able to to catalog all that

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information and get it out to you so

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we're anxious to see it and we know that

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you all are anxious to see it as well

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and get that to you just as soon as we

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but just a little bit of delay there

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i'm much happier to delay slip-ops due

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to weather than than launch

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in the area of systems and just kind of

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other items we talked about gpc3 a

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little bit and i told you that i thought

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that that was going to be a switch tease

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kind of item and it turns out the team

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brought up the gpc

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they did a a they did a re-ipl and a

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dump which is to say they essentially

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rebooted it dumped it looked at all the

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error logs looked at all the data and

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gpc3 is perfectly healthy there's

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nothing wrong with it we don't consider

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it an anomaly we're not tracking it as

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an anomaly it was a it was a it was a

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switch tease item and so that one's

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that one's cleared

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failed to indicate open when in fact the

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latch was open and that's a redundant

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intended use for that microswitch or

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remainder of the mission it won't impact

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anything when we go to put the the mplm

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far out contingency reason we wanted to

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then take it back out of the payload bay

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microswitch so no issue whatsoever on

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talked about yesterday and i said that

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we didn't have good state vectors and

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the perturbations during rendezvous and

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uh was playing into that

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in fact those perturbations have

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enough such that there's no issue with

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the conjunction whatsoever so we don't

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have a conjunction anymore it's uh it's

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off of our radar screen in terms of

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anything that we need to go work or

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worry about for for tomorrow

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so in summary

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as i said the the crew on orbit the team

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on the ground are continuing to perform

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at a very high level i couldn't be more

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pleased in terms of the progress of the

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mission so far

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the systems in the vehicle

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is again a huge tribute to the team

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around the country that has worked so

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hard on these vehicles

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mmt the two major items of course we

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approve the plus one day and and there's

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no focus inspection required and so with

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that we are looking forward to the

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another great uh great day in orbit so

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i'd be happy to answer any questions

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okay as usual we'll start here and then

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bridge and

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you'll have to come up to the microphone

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so everybody out on the

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network can hear you and we'll start

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with mark

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oh thank you uh mark caro for aviation

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week i think i can add but one day is

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probably all you can extend this mission

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is that

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correct

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uh gina sincere abc news so what will

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you do the crew do with that extra day i

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mean were they already backed up as it

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was

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what will happen on that day

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uh gina they were not backed up in fact

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they've been ahead of the timeline of

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course we haven't really started the

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transfer activities in earnest yet we

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just now have the mplm on onboard the

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station we have the hatch open and we

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have the crew beginning to work those

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uh the preliminary aspects of the

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transfers from the mplm we had done

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several hours of mid deck transfer by

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this time

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by the time of the mmt today

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but there are additional

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unstow unpack and then put in the right

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place on station kind of activities that

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will be very helpful for the space

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station

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they have a couple of systems items that

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they're going to ask for some some help

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working

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they have their constituents analyzer

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that's had a failure and they're they're

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going to ask for some help working on

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that and in fact we have an entire list

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most of it is in

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space station systems kind of language

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that i'm not as well versed in as some

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other people are but we can certainly

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publish that for folks and show you the

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kinds of things that we're planning to

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work on but as i talked about yesterday

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it's certainly some some some unpack and

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stowage on the station side items

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and setup and configuration of some of

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the cargo that we're bringing up it's

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some of the smaller systems but

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certainly in any case items that they

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want to work off

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in the near term

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in addition to some general job jar

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items on the space station

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that they could use some help with

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before our four-person crew leaves so

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they had some 70 items in total

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and so they are off prioritizing that

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list with the mission operations team

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and the crew on board

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and by the time we get to the point

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where those things would be implemented

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we'll have a very good prioritized list

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and as i was yesterday i'm

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i'm even more confident today if that's

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possible that we won't have any trouble

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phillips loss with nasaspaceflight.com

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um just to follow mark's question a

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little bit um

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how close would you get in in terms of

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car margins to

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how close would you approach to an

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additional day or are you expecting to

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sort of stabilize at some point

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what i expect is is we'll end up toward

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the end of the docked mission

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somewhere just maybe uh above a half of

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a day

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so we're not going to be anywhere near

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being able to to go an additional day

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you know between now and when we undock

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and so

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i feel very fortunate we were able to

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get this day

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it required us to launch on time

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essentially on on the initial launch

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attempt

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it required us to to have our power

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predictions be pretty much

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right down the line in terms of what we

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were expecting

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and as you can see we knew we were going

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to be close to a day and given that

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we're into our fourth day third to

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fourth day on orbit and we're only six

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hours above that the predicts were

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pretty good so

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i don't expect much more than about

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another half a day by the time we undock

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maybe slightly more than that

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thanks and then um

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for the end mission opportunities on the

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21st

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do you know looking ahead might be

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looking at a little bit too far but do

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you know if there's going to be any

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orbit adjust that you need to do to

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bring in like cross range or anything

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like that into kennedy preliminarily

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there isn't um but we'll let the flight

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dynamics team evaluate that over the

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course of the next week i can tell you

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that the first opportunity on the 24th

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on the 21st

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is uh just a few minutes before 6 a.m

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eastern time

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and at for kennedy space center landing

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first opportunity

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and that would be i think it's somewhere

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on the order of 40 minutes before

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sunrise

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and there will be a second opportunity

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that day as well

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and neither of those i think at this

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time we think we need an orbit adjust to

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bring in and cross range is good

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thanks

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yeah david hirsch with nhk could you in

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practical terms give an idea of why

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the cryogenics is a constraining factor

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when considering adding a day and how

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you do your your calculations

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sure i'd be happy to

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cryogenics of course

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the consumable that we use

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um

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to provide power

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basically the reactants that that allow

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the fuel cell to run and and the fuel

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cells provide power to the

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to the buses on orbit for for the

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shuttle power systems the

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they are consumable we have other

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consumables we have the lyell the co2

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scrubbing consumable we have n2 we have

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o2 in this case we have h2 is the

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limiting consumable in the cryogenics

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and so we know how much power therefore

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reactants required to generate that

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power

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we need for the systems that we plan to

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have operating for the remainder of our

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time on over while we're docked

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and so we can compute

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exactly how much reactants we're going

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to need and when we run that out to

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include

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the

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so we were at 12 plus zero plus two

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that cryogenic

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calculation the consumables calculation

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assumes that we have those two days as

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well of course because we we need to

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have those two days in the bank

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and so it's just a pure straight

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consumables calculation based on

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um if you think about a spreadsheet that

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shows you which systems are powered on

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when and for what duration and what

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their

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kilowatt hour requirements are and then

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have that for each day of the mission

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and then it's simply a matter of

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calculating that the cryogenics required

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to generate that much power in the field

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dan bergano with usa today uh you talked

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a little bit about what orbital

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adjustment may or may not be needed for

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the extra day could you just go a little

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more detail about what sort of planning

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takes place now give it an extra day is

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it already mostly done and you just have

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to fill in some blanks or is there a bit

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of a scramble to account for all that

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sure it's uh well won't be a scramble um

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because the team's plan for this

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eventuality

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in this case this is something we were

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hoping to be able to do before we

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launched so what you'll see happen now

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is the flight planners will generate the

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plus one day flight plan this day will

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be added after

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what what was and what will remain

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flight day eight in this flight plan

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and you'll see a few items move ahead of

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that a few items move behind it

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as a function of which tasks

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on the space station program list that

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we implement on which days

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and exactly what the priority of those

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are so

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there will be some puts and takes to

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that there will be some iteration of

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that but certainly the initial

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publication of the

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quote plus one day timeline is i'd be

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surprised if not already being reviewed

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by the flight control team uh

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for uh for uplink to the crew for

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consideration so again it'll be iterated

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on but we iterate on the nominal

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timeline every day

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and so it's really not a

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a big delta for the team in particular

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in this case

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they had an expectation it was coming so

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they were already looking ahead at which

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days we would slightly move which things

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around

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which things might move ahead of

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the what was flight to eight and which

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things might go on the other side of it

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so it's a fairly straightforward thing

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the team is is very well versed in doing

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this

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and

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over the course of the next couple days

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eric berger with the houston chronicle

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you've used the word flawless a couple

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times to talk about this mission and

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really from the the launch day

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forward it's just been really smooth you

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had the lightning strike issue that you

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were able to investigate very quickly

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and clear that

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one in the past has taken more time and

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you had a clean launch and it just seems

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like the shuttle program is really

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a well-oiled machine right now it looks

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like that from the outside

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maybe you could talk a little bit about

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the mood

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among your team or among the you know

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the people a lot of whom are going to be

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losing their jobs is this bittersweet

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that you sort of built the program up to

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this point where it it's really moving

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along very efficiently you're getting

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the cleanest vehicles ever

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you know you're doing these long complex

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missions and and you know you're

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performing them like again outside

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observers it looks easy to us talk about

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the mood of people sort of dealing with

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those two situations

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okay sure

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it is true of course just on launch day

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alone we had the uh

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the weather that we were challenged with

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we had the gox vent hood um at hold us

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at 31 seconds and the team did an

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outstanding job working through that and

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and

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allowing us to have enough launch window

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and performance remaining to be able to

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go fly friday

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we had several balloon issues that

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as it turns out many more than

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than we've had on some previous launch

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attempts

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every single item while in and of itself

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may not have been all that significant

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could have potentially kept us from

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launching on friday but the team worked

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through all these things seamlessly

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and that continues to be the case

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through

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our time on orbit here as we sit here in

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flight day four

567
00:19:47,990 --> 00:19:46,480
um

568
00:19:52,549 --> 00:19:48,000
the

569
00:19:55,029 --> 00:19:52,559
very committed to

570
00:19:56,950 --> 00:19:55,039
this idea of finishing strong and it's

571
00:19:58,870 --> 00:19:56,960
not just a mantra for us

572
00:20:00,549 --> 00:19:58,880
it if you look at the performance of

573
00:20:02,310 --> 00:20:00,559
this vehicle and of the previous several

574
00:20:04,470 --> 00:20:02,320
vehicles you can see

575
00:20:05,590 --> 00:20:04,480
that it's proof in the pudding that

576
00:20:07,430 --> 00:20:05,600
we've been putting our nose to the

577
00:20:09,990 --> 00:20:07,440
grindstone and trying to make good on

578
00:20:12,070 --> 00:20:10,000
our word of of finishing strong

579
00:20:14,630 --> 00:20:12,080
and i think maybe more importantly than

580
00:20:17,029 --> 00:20:14,640
the than than the mood right now which

581
00:20:18,070 --> 00:20:17,039
is certainly very much i cannot tell a

582
00:20:19,430 --> 00:20:18,080
difference when i walk around the

583
00:20:21,590 --> 00:20:19,440
control room when i when i'm in the

584
00:20:24,230 --> 00:20:21,600
mission management team and when we're

585
00:20:26,870 --> 00:20:24,240
executing i cannot tell a difference

586
00:20:28,789 --> 00:20:26,880
in in that any of this is

587
00:20:31,029 --> 00:20:28,799
is is going on relative to a last

588
00:20:33,190 --> 00:20:31,039
mission kind of scenario

589
00:20:34,630 --> 00:20:33,200
i'm undoubtedly we'll be able to post

590
00:20:37,350 --> 00:20:34,640
we'll stop

591
00:20:39,510 --> 00:20:37,360
and and that is to be expected these are

592
00:20:40,789 --> 00:20:39,520
we're all human beings and and there are

593
00:20:43,190 --> 00:20:40,799
aspects of

594
00:20:45,430 --> 00:20:43,200
of our lives that that that will affect

595
00:20:47,510 --> 00:20:45,440
us in ways that'll be

596
00:20:49,590 --> 00:20:47,520
different for individuals

597
00:20:51,909 --> 00:20:49,600
but i think again more importantly what

598
00:20:53,350 --> 00:20:51,919
i would say is that

599
00:20:55,350 --> 00:20:53,360
this team

600
00:20:56,470 --> 00:20:55,360
has a tremendous amount of momentum

601
00:20:58,950 --> 00:20:56,480
right now

602
00:21:01,029 --> 00:20:58,960
and our intention is to

603
00:21:04,070 --> 00:21:01,039
to leverage that momentum

604
00:21:06,950 --> 00:21:04,080
leverage the skill base that we have

605
00:21:09,270 --> 00:21:06,960
leverage the

606
00:21:11,669 --> 00:21:09,280
lessons that we will take away from the

607
00:21:15,110 --> 00:21:11,679
shuttle program and play those things

608
00:21:19,350 --> 00:21:16,789
pronounced way

609
00:21:20,630 --> 00:21:19,360
as we move forward in in the development

610
00:21:22,710 --> 00:21:20,640
of of

611
00:21:24,230 --> 00:21:22,720
a new spacecraft new rocket new

612
00:21:26,470 --> 00:21:24,240
capabilities and new systems and new

613
00:21:28,789 --> 00:21:26,480
infrastructure to go around that

614
00:21:31,110 --> 00:21:28,799
i feel very uh optimistic about our

615
00:21:34,230 --> 00:21:31,120
ability to do that

616
00:21:36,070 --> 00:21:34,240
the team is is

617
00:21:37,190 --> 00:21:36,080
obviously committed to the task at hand

618
00:21:39,750 --> 00:21:37,200
and that is the

619
00:21:41,190 --> 00:21:39,760
mission that we have on orbit right now

620
00:21:42,789 --> 00:21:41,200
but when we're done

621
00:21:45,029 --> 00:21:42,799
i think one of the things that is going

622
00:21:46,950 --> 00:21:45,039
to benefit the agency

623
00:21:48,870 --> 00:21:46,960
a great deal and benefit the nation is

624
00:21:49,830 --> 00:21:48,880
we're going to seed out this shuttle

625
00:21:51,990 --> 00:21:49,840
team

626
00:21:53,270 --> 00:21:52,000
into the other activities in the space

627
00:21:55,270 --> 00:21:53,280
community

628
00:21:57,350 --> 00:21:55,280
whether it be commercial whether it be

629
00:21:59,190 --> 00:21:57,360
the things in internal to nasa that the

630
00:22:01,590 --> 00:21:59,200
agency um

631
00:22:04,470 --> 00:22:01,600
has uh has put forward as as the next

632
00:22:07,270 --> 00:22:04,480
step um for us to do in the overall

633
00:22:08,310 --> 00:22:07,280
agency vision um having this shuttle

634
00:22:09,110 --> 00:22:08,320
team

635
00:22:12,310 --> 00:22:09,120
be

636
00:22:14,070 --> 00:22:12,320
seated out and and immersed in all of

637
00:22:15,510 --> 00:22:14,080
those activities i think is going to pay

638
00:22:18,310 --> 00:22:15,520
huge dividends

639
00:22:21,110 --> 00:22:18,320
to our ability to go forward and succeed

640
00:22:22,870 --> 00:22:21,120
on those respective endeavors i feel

641
00:22:24,070 --> 00:22:22,880
very strongly about that i know the team

642
00:22:26,390 --> 00:22:24,080
members

643
00:22:28,710 --> 00:22:26,400
are looking forward to that as well and

644
00:22:31,110 --> 00:22:28,720
i think that is gonna

645
00:22:33,029 --> 00:22:31,120
that is the thing that that's on my mind

646
00:22:34,549 --> 00:22:33,039
um when i'm not thinking about the

647
00:22:35,430 --> 00:22:34,559
mission that we have in orbit right now

648
00:22:37,750 --> 00:22:35,440
so

649
00:22:40,149 --> 00:22:37,760
it's not on my mind very much right now

650
00:22:41,590 --> 00:22:40,159
but it will be on my mind post will stop

651
00:22:44,230 --> 00:22:41,600
and it will be my intent to do

652
00:22:47,669 --> 00:22:44,240
everything i can to help us

653
00:22:51,029 --> 00:22:47,679
take this team and push it out into

654
00:22:53,430 --> 00:22:51,039
the various aspects of the ongoing

655
00:22:56,070 --> 00:22:53,440
development activities that we have

656
00:22:57,830 --> 00:22:56,080
both in and outside the agency and i

657
00:23:00,230 --> 00:22:57,840
think that is going to be a huge part of

658
00:23:03,430 --> 00:23:00,240
the reason why we will succeed in those

659
00:23:12,230 --> 00:23:07,510
irene

660
00:23:15,270 --> 00:23:12,240
speaking of future systems can you just

661
00:23:17,029 --> 00:23:15,280
give us a little inventory of what is uh

662
00:23:18,870 --> 00:23:17,039
what's available from shuttle program

663
00:23:21,270 --> 00:23:18,880
that you're not retiring that you're

664
00:23:23,990 --> 00:23:21,280
keeping for possible use with a

665
00:23:25,430 --> 00:23:24,000
for the sls and and also if if the

666
00:23:27,190 --> 00:23:25,440
decision is made to go with a system

667
00:23:29,750 --> 00:23:27,200
like that and you're going to use these

668
00:23:31,990 --> 00:23:29,760
uh these um shuttle main engines does

669
00:23:34,870 --> 00:23:32,000
does that mean that you're going to

670
00:23:36,549 --> 00:23:34,880
restart production of tanks and

671
00:23:40,390 --> 00:23:36,559
where do you where do you see some of

672
00:23:44,230 --> 00:23:40,400
this migration from existing system to

673
00:23:47,190 --> 00:23:44,240
next generation thanks okay irene

674
00:23:48,830 --> 00:23:47,200
it's very much a work in progress

675
00:23:52,149 --> 00:23:48,840
there are some

676
00:23:54,310 --> 00:23:52,159
items of the sts system you mentioned

677
00:23:56,470 --> 00:23:54,320
the space shuttle main engines that we

678
00:23:59,190 --> 00:23:56,480
envisioned being part of at least the

679
00:24:00,310 --> 00:23:59,200
initial phases of the future development

680
00:24:01,350 --> 00:24:00,320
programs

681
00:24:04,230 --> 00:24:01,360
and so

682
00:24:07,029 --> 00:24:04,240
all along that's one item

683
00:24:08,870 --> 00:24:07,039
that that we kind of anticipated

684
00:24:11,909 --> 00:24:08,880
might be

685
00:24:14,230 --> 00:24:11,919
used in in next generation vehicle

686
00:24:15,510 --> 00:24:14,240
development and so we've kind of planned

687
00:24:17,190 --> 00:24:15,520
for them to be

688
00:24:18,390 --> 00:24:17,200
to be preserved in that regard the space

689
00:24:20,789 --> 00:24:18,400
shuttle main engines and their

690
00:24:23,510 --> 00:24:20,799
associated ground support equipment

691
00:24:25,750 --> 00:24:23,520
and and spares and things of that nature

692
00:24:28,230 --> 00:24:25,760
now we have had to stop

693
00:24:31,110 --> 00:24:28,240
um asking the vendors to make parts and

694
00:24:33,350 --> 00:24:31,120
and spares and that kind of thing

695
00:24:34,230 --> 00:24:33,360
but there's a lot of space shuttle main

696
00:24:36,070 --> 00:24:34,240
engine

697
00:24:38,549 --> 00:24:36,080
um

698
00:24:40,549 --> 00:24:38,559
logistical support available to us just

699
00:24:43,110 --> 00:24:40,559
as we know it today on the shelf so to

700
00:24:44,470 --> 00:24:43,120
speak and so that's one area where we're

701
00:24:46,149 --> 00:24:44,480
preserving and

702
00:24:47,590 --> 00:24:46,159
going to be able to play forward the

703
00:24:49,510 --> 00:24:47,600
main engines

704
00:24:52,070 --> 00:24:49,520
in some way shape or form

705
00:24:53,029 --> 00:24:52,080
there are other main propulsion system

706
00:24:54,310 --> 00:24:53,039
elements

707
00:24:56,870 --> 00:24:54,320
subsystems

708
00:24:58,310 --> 00:24:56,880
plumbing parts valves

709
00:25:00,549 --> 00:24:58,320
things of that nature

710
00:25:02,310 --> 00:25:00,559
that we're anticipating

711
00:25:03,990 --> 00:25:02,320
will be asked to

712
00:25:06,149 --> 00:25:04,000
to keep in a

713
00:25:08,230 --> 00:25:06,159
preserved state if you will

714
00:25:10,870 --> 00:25:08,240
um and so

715
00:25:14,710 --> 00:25:10,880
those items we're continuing to build a

716
00:25:16,870 --> 00:25:14,720
spreadsheet for for all of those things

717
00:25:19,110 --> 00:25:16,880
in the booster world obviously there's

718
00:25:21,510 --> 00:25:19,120
there's a lot of discussion

719
00:25:25,110 --> 00:25:21,520
about the uh the next generation

720
00:25:27,029 --> 00:25:25,120
vehicles and and the utilization of of

721
00:25:29,350 --> 00:25:27,039
similar booster hardware and so

722
00:25:32,070 --> 00:25:29,360
similarly

723
00:25:34,630 --> 00:25:32,080
some of the things that we have

724
00:25:37,110 --> 00:25:34,640
that we use to process

725
00:25:39,029 --> 00:25:37,120
some of the booster hardware

726
00:25:41,110 --> 00:25:39,039
you know we're going to preserve until

727
00:25:44,230 --> 00:25:41,120
further notice and to the extent we're

728
00:25:46,549 --> 00:25:44,240
able to until things get um

729
00:25:48,710 --> 00:25:46,559
more firmed up in terms of of the

730
00:25:50,710 --> 00:25:48,720
architecture going forward so

731
00:25:52,630 --> 00:25:50,720
i can't give you an exact list today

732
00:25:53,830 --> 00:25:52,640
quite frankly because it is a moving

733
00:25:55,830 --> 00:25:53,840
target

734
00:25:57,350 --> 00:25:55,840
um but there's a whole group of folks

735
00:25:59,430 --> 00:25:57,360
that are working on that is it is in

736
00:26:01,269 --> 00:25:59,440
fact what they are working on day in day

737
00:26:02,630 --> 00:26:01,279
out and they will be for the next

738
00:26:04,950 --> 00:26:02,640
several months

739
00:26:06,149 --> 00:26:04,960
and so in the meantime we have

740
00:26:08,149 --> 00:26:06,159
identified the things that we're

741
00:26:10,390 --> 00:26:08,159
absolutely not going to use going

742
00:26:13,590 --> 00:26:10,400
forward and those would be very

743
00:26:14,789 --> 00:26:13,600
shuttle and orbiter specific items that

744
00:26:17,110 --> 00:26:14,799
um

745
00:26:18,230 --> 00:26:17,120
that you're mostly aware of already and

746
00:26:19,669 --> 00:26:18,240
if you think about things here at the

747
00:26:23,110 --> 00:26:19,679
johnson space center that were very

748
00:26:26,230 --> 00:26:23,120
shuttle orbiter and and

749
00:26:29,350 --> 00:26:26,240
orbiter specific if you will like

750
00:26:30,950 --> 00:26:29,360
simulators and subsystem trainers and

751
00:26:32,789 --> 00:26:30,960
things that you would only use if you

752
00:26:34,630 --> 00:26:32,799
were going to train somebody to fly

753
00:26:35,830 --> 00:26:34,640
the space shuttle

754
00:26:37,029 --> 00:26:35,840
obviously those things are being

755
00:26:38,470 --> 00:26:37,039
accessed and

756
00:26:39,669 --> 00:26:38,480
and we're trying to make the best use of

757
00:26:41,830 --> 00:26:39,679
those by

758
00:26:44,230 --> 00:26:41,840
getting them out to the to the academic

759
00:26:46,549 --> 00:26:44,240
world in some cases to industry in some

760
00:26:47,590 --> 00:26:46,559
cases to

761
00:26:49,430 --> 00:26:47,600
you know

762
00:26:51,830 --> 00:26:49,440
areas where folks can do

763
00:26:54,149 --> 00:26:51,840
evaluation and test and they can learn

764
00:26:55,350 --> 00:26:54,159
they can be used as learning instruments

765
00:27:00,549 --> 00:26:55,360
so

766
00:27:05,590 --> 00:27:03,269
gangly topic because the shuttle program

767
00:27:06,549 --> 00:27:05,600
is huge

768
00:27:07,510 --> 00:27:06,559
and

769
00:27:09,190 --> 00:27:07,520
but

770
00:27:10,630 --> 00:27:09,200
to your specific question i hope i've

771
00:27:12,230 --> 00:27:10,640
answered it with respect to some of the

772
00:27:13,110 --> 00:27:12,240
things that we think we are going to be

773
00:27:15,110 --> 00:27:13,120
asked

774
00:27:17,669 --> 00:27:15,120
to continue to preserve

775
00:27:22,070 --> 00:27:17,679
and we'll we'll know more about that in

776
00:27:26,389 --> 00:27:24,389
thanks just one quick follow-up um

777
00:27:27,990 --> 00:27:26,399
i think with one of the pre-launch press

778
00:27:29,590 --> 00:27:28,000
conferences i'm sorry i can't remember

779
00:27:31,110 --> 00:27:29,600
who was telling us this but

780
00:27:33,110 --> 00:27:31,120
there was a

781
00:27:35,110 --> 00:27:33,120
letter or something that the shuttle

782
00:27:36,549 --> 00:27:35,120
atlantis was not

783
00:27:39,350 --> 00:27:36,559
to be um

784
00:27:41,190 --> 00:27:39,360
um dispensed or was pending a letter i

785
00:27:43,990 --> 00:27:41,200
don't remember which way the action went

786
00:27:46,310 --> 00:27:44,000
but what is the status of um for

787
00:27:49,190 --> 00:27:46,320
atlantis and also i'm sorry i meant

788
00:27:51,590 --> 00:27:49,200
endeavor um for endeavor and also for

789
00:27:53,669 --> 00:27:51,600
atlantis when it returns as far as it

790
00:27:56,230 --> 00:27:53,679
being released to the museums that

791
00:27:57,590 --> 00:27:56,240
they've been promised to

792
00:27:59,990 --> 00:27:57,600
it is endeavor

793
00:28:01,269 --> 00:28:00,000
and there was some discussion and some

794
00:28:07,269 --> 00:28:01,279
um

795
00:28:09,430 --> 00:28:07,279
headquarters for us to

796
00:28:10,389 --> 00:28:09,440
not go beyond down mission processing on

797
00:28:13,350 --> 00:28:10,399
endeavor

798
00:28:15,510 --> 00:28:13,360
until we we had such memo

799
00:28:16,870 --> 00:28:15,520
i i don't think we've gotten that yet

800
00:28:19,510 --> 00:28:16,880
but i think we've gotten word that we

801
00:28:21,430 --> 00:28:19,520
should expect it and so we intend

802
00:28:24,070 --> 00:28:21,440
that we're going to be able to go beyond

803
00:28:27,430 --> 00:28:24,080
domination processing and into

804
00:28:29,669 --> 00:28:27,440
the preparation for

805
00:28:31,269 --> 00:28:29,679
the museum

806
00:28:33,029 --> 00:28:31,279
endeavor is concerned

807
00:28:35,430 --> 00:28:33,039
atlantis of course will go into the

808
00:28:38,230 --> 00:28:35,440
normal uh down mission processing and be

809
00:28:40,630 --> 00:28:38,240
saved and then it'll go right into

810
00:28:42,549 --> 00:28:40,640
its preparation for exhibit at the

811
00:28:43,909 --> 00:28:42,559
kennedy space center in the in the

812
00:28:45,510 --> 00:28:43,919
visitor center area that they have

813
00:28:47,750 --> 00:28:45,520
established there so

814
00:28:50,710 --> 00:28:47,760
um that's the status of

815
00:28:52,230 --> 00:28:50,720
those vehicles and again i think um

816
00:28:53,830 --> 00:28:52,240
at this point we're fully anticipating

817
00:28:55,669 --> 00:28:53,840
that that

818
00:28:57,110 --> 00:28:55,679
once we get to the point of

819
00:28:59,110 --> 00:28:57,120
being at the end of down mission

820
00:29:01,269 --> 00:28:59,120
processing for 105 we'll continue right

821
00:29:03,110 --> 00:29:01,279
on beyond that just as what it had

822
00:29:05,909 --> 00:29:03,120
originally been intent intended for us

823
00:29:09,029 --> 00:29:07,430
okay let's go to the kennedy space

824
00:29:10,950 --> 00:29:09,039
center well we'll come back bill if you

825
00:29:13,669 --> 00:29:10,960
want okay

826
00:29:15,269 --> 00:29:13,679
let's go to ksc for i think there's one

827
00:29:18,389 --> 00:29:15,279
question or two down at the kennedy

828
00:29:22,470 --> 00:29:20,710
uh one question uh this is marcia dunn

829
00:29:24,230 --> 00:29:22,480
of the associated press

830
00:29:25,669 --> 00:29:24,240
um you mentioned and it's been pretty

831
00:29:27,909 --> 00:29:25,679
apparent that the crew's been running

832
00:29:30,470 --> 00:29:27,919
ahead of schedule almost since i got

833
00:29:32,310 --> 00:29:30,480
into orbit yet it's the smallest crew in

834
00:29:35,190 --> 00:29:32,320
decades for the shuttle i'm just

835
00:29:37,510 --> 00:29:35,200
wondering how you reconcile that

836
00:29:39,269 --> 00:29:37,520
how can four people be ahead of schedule

837
00:29:41,990 --> 00:29:39,279
when it usually takes a crew of six or

838
00:29:47,590 --> 00:29:44,470
i i don't know

839
00:29:49,909 --> 00:29:47,600
i i'm very happy about it obviously and

840
00:29:51,110 --> 00:29:49,919
it will require some some post mission

841
00:29:52,630 --> 00:29:51,120
debriefing

842
00:29:54,070 --> 00:29:52,640
for us to totally put that story

843
00:29:55,909 --> 00:29:54,080
together

844
00:29:57,590 --> 00:29:55,919
of course in all seriousness marcia part

845
00:30:00,230 --> 00:29:57,600
of the answer is the

846
00:30:01,590 --> 00:30:00,240
the mission design was done with with

847
00:30:03,830 --> 00:30:01,600
the understanding that it would be four

848
00:30:06,950 --> 00:30:03,840
people versus six or seven

849
00:30:08,789 --> 00:30:06,960
so it's not as though in all of the

850
00:30:10,070 --> 00:30:08,799
activities that the four-person crew is

851
00:30:10,950 --> 00:30:10,080
doing on board

852
00:30:12,630 --> 00:30:10,960
um

853
00:30:14,070 --> 00:30:12,640
you know they're doing

854
00:30:15,990 --> 00:30:14,080
everything

855
00:30:17,669 --> 00:30:16,000
literally that a six or seven person

856
00:30:18,710 --> 00:30:17,679
career is doing that that just isn't the

857
00:30:21,430 --> 00:30:18,720
case

858
00:30:22,870 --> 00:30:21,440
um but at any rate i'm very happy about

859
00:30:24,789 --> 00:30:22,880
it

860
00:30:26,070 --> 00:30:24,799
and

861
00:30:28,230 --> 00:30:26,080
i guess the truth is i probably don't

862
00:30:31,110 --> 00:30:28,240
have to reconcile it

863
00:30:32,710 --> 00:30:31,120
but we'll just take it as it is and and

864
00:30:37,669 --> 00:30:32,720
we'll hope it continues through the rest

865
00:30:37,679 --> 00:30:41,590
anything else marcia

866
00:30:45,909 --> 00:30:43,590
okay how about the no that's it thank

867
00:30:47,510 --> 00:30:45,919
you okay uh let's see i think todd are

868
00:30:50,149 --> 00:30:47,520
you on the phone bridge from florida

869
00:30:53,430 --> 00:30:50,159
today

870
00:30:56,389 --> 00:30:53,440
yes i am thanks a lot kyle um i was just

871
00:31:00,149 --> 00:30:56,399
wondering leroy what your uh uh thoughts

872
00:31:02,630 --> 00:31:00,159
are um as you approach what will be the

873
00:31:05,029 --> 00:31:02,640
the last dba af

874
00:31:07,190 --> 00:31:05,039
in the uh shuttle era

875
00:31:10,070 --> 00:31:07,200
um even though it's being done by folks

876
00:31:13,590 --> 00:31:10,080
on from the station it is the

877
00:31:16,149 --> 00:31:13,600
last eva of the shuttle era and um how

878
00:31:18,470 --> 00:31:16,159
far you guys have come uh

879
00:31:21,430 --> 00:31:18,480
since the beginning of station assembly

880
00:31:25,750 --> 00:31:21,440
and and in fact preparation for the

881
00:31:33,029 --> 00:31:29,990
um well todd i um similar to my thoughts

882
00:31:35,029 --> 00:31:33,039
and my sentiments as we we

883
00:31:36,870 --> 00:31:35,039
you know did the final launch in the the

884
00:31:38,950 --> 00:31:36,880
final rendezvous and proximity

885
00:31:42,950 --> 00:31:38,960
operations and docking and

886
00:31:43,830 --> 00:31:42,960
and the the payload the mplm birthing

887
00:31:45,269 --> 00:31:43,840
um

888
00:31:47,990 --> 00:31:45,279
tomorrow will be

889
00:31:49,830 --> 00:31:48,000
you know the final planned spacewalk

890
00:31:51,430 --> 00:31:49,840
that we do with an orbiter present

891
00:31:52,549 --> 00:31:51,440
albeit with the station crew as you

892
00:31:53,590 --> 00:31:52,559
mentioned

893
00:31:55,990 --> 00:31:53,600
um

894
00:31:57,990 --> 00:31:56,000
i just continue to feel a great sense of

895
00:31:59,669 --> 00:31:58,000
accomplishment for this team and and

896
00:32:01,110 --> 00:31:59,679
that's what i tried to reiterate and

897
00:32:02,950 --> 00:32:01,120
pass on to the team in the in the

898
00:32:05,590 --> 00:32:02,960
mission management team today

899
00:32:07,590 --> 00:32:05,600
and uh in that case it was reflecting on

900
00:32:09,830 --> 00:32:07,600
the performance of the vehicle and

901
00:32:13,350 --> 00:32:09,840
and uh there's many more things beyond

902
00:32:18,070 --> 00:32:15,269
should and are deserving of feeling a

903
00:32:20,870 --> 00:32:18,080
great sense of accomplishment for so

904
00:32:22,389 --> 00:32:20,880
that's my take on it and um there are no

905
00:32:24,870 --> 00:32:22,399
surprises here

906
00:32:26,710 --> 00:32:24,880
and again it's it's

907
00:32:29,669 --> 00:32:26,720
a tribute to the team that that we're

908
00:32:31,750 --> 00:32:29,679
able to to execute in this fashion

909
00:32:33,430 --> 00:32:31,760
um and the vehicle performance has been

910
00:32:34,789 --> 00:32:33,440
as good as it is because of the

911
00:32:36,310 --> 00:32:34,799
preparation of the vehicles on the

912
00:32:37,669 --> 00:32:36,320
ground no doubt

913
00:32:39,350 --> 00:32:37,679
and so

914
00:32:42,230 --> 00:32:39,360
you know we have come a long way since

915
00:32:44,789 --> 00:32:42,240
we first started doing space walks

916
00:32:46,070 --> 00:32:44,799
in in the assembly of the space station

917
00:32:48,230 --> 00:32:46,080
and that's the other thing that i would

918
00:32:49,990 --> 00:32:48,240
say in terms of playing things forward

919
00:32:52,230 --> 00:32:50,000
from the shuttle program

920
00:32:54,549 --> 00:32:52,240
as we wind down the program

921
00:32:55,830 --> 00:32:54,559
there are a lot of lessons learned from

922
00:32:56,630 --> 00:32:55,840
the shuttle

923
00:33:00,070 --> 00:32:56,640
that

924
00:33:01,350 --> 00:33:00,080
i i intend and i and i think

925
00:33:04,149 --> 00:33:01,360
the agency

926
00:33:05,110 --> 00:33:04,159
can get great benefit from as we move

927
00:33:06,230 --> 00:33:05,120
forward

928
00:33:08,710 --> 00:33:06,240
and so

929
00:33:10,870 --> 00:33:08,720
a lot of folks like to look back way way

930
00:33:12,549 --> 00:33:10,880
back um before the shuttle first flew

931
00:33:14,310 --> 00:33:12,559
and talked about you know it was

932
00:33:16,630 --> 00:33:14,320
it was billed as a

933
00:33:19,909 --> 00:33:16,640
cheap routine

934
00:33:22,389 --> 00:33:19,919
frequent access to low earth orbit and

935
00:33:25,029 --> 00:33:22,399
to include assembly of a space station

936
00:33:27,029 --> 00:33:25,039
and to include some other things

937
00:33:28,789 --> 00:33:27,039
of course those folks only knew what

938
00:33:30,470 --> 00:33:28,799
they knew then they were at a certain

939
00:33:31,590 --> 00:33:30,480
place on a learning curve with respect

940
00:33:33,750 --> 00:33:31,600
to

941
00:33:34,710 --> 00:33:33,760
operating in low earth orbit

942
00:33:36,470 --> 00:33:34,720
and

943
00:33:38,389 --> 00:33:36,480
nothing can be taken away from them they

944
00:33:39,990 --> 00:33:38,399
were they were making plans based on

945
00:33:42,230 --> 00:33:40,000
their best experience

946
00:33:45,590 --> 00:33:42,240
and of course we know a lot more now

947
00:33:48,549 --> 00:33:45,600
than than what we did 135 flights ago

948
00:33:51,190 --> 00:33:48,559
certainly than what we did before sts-1

949
00:33:53,830 --> 00:33:51,200
and we can talk about a lot of different

950
00:33:56,630 --> 00:33:53,840
aspects of of lessons learned from the

951
00:34:00,389 --> 00:33:56,640
shuttle as we go forward i've heard also

952
00:34:02,389 --> 00:34:00,399
some discussion over the years about

953
00:34:05,509 --> 00:34:02,399
in other areas of development you know

954
00:34:07,669 --> 00:34:05,519
we don't want to do it like shuttle

955
00:34:09,589 --> 00:34:07,679
and i would i would

956
00:34:12,629 --> 00:34:09,599
my comment to that is

957
00:34:14,710 --> 00:34:12,639
is primarily that

958
00:34:16,389 --> 00:34:14,720
there's a lot to be learned from shuttle

959
00:34:19,030 --> 00:34:16,399
and we ought to take the things that we

960
00:34:21,589 --> 00:34:19,040
know and understand work well

961
00:34:23,190 --> 00:34:21,599
and we ought to build on those things

962
00:34:24,869 --> 00:34:23,200
and and that is absolutely i think what

963
00:34:26,790 --> 00:34:24,879
we intend to do

964
00:34:29,430 --> 00:34:26,800
um and for my part in it that would

965
00:34:31,829 --> 00:34:29,440
certainly be my focus is to take as much

966
00:34:33,829 --> 00:34:31,839
of the the benefit of what we learned

967
00:34:35,349 --> 00:34:33,839
going forward it's not really just about

968
00:34:37,430 --> 00:34:35,359
the shuttle it's about the capability

969
00:34:39,190 --> 00:34:37,440
that was provided you can talk about the

970
00:34:40,710 --> 00:34:39,200
operations of the shuttle

971
00:34:42,710 --> 00:34:40,720
you can talk about what we've learned in

972
00:34:44,869 --> 00:34:42,720
terms of operating the shuttle and

973
00:34:47,589 --> 00:34:44,879
and operating around complex

974
00:34:49,829 --> 00:34:47,599
robotic and and spacewalk operations at

975
00:34:51,589 --> 00:34:49,839
the space station you can talk about how

976
00:34:54,149 --> 00:34:51,599
we evolved this shuttle to use it not

977
00:34:57,430 --> 00:34:54,159
only as a platform for science for space

978
00:34:59,109 --> 00:34:57,440
hab and space lab etc

979
00:35:01,430 --> 00:34:59,119
but the way we evolved it to fly

980
00:35:02,950 --> 00:35:01,440
missions to to deploy satellites to

981
00:35:05,109 --> 00:35:02,960
capture satellites and repair them and

982
00:35:07,670 --> 00:35:05,119
redeploy them um

983
00:35:08,550 --> 00:35:07,680
to uh to assemble a space station

984
00:35:11,109 --> 00:35:08,560
um

985
00:35:12,790 --> 00:35:11,119
the uh the benefit that we got in terms

986
00:35:14,630 --> 00:35:12,800
of the mirror docking and the mirror

987
00:35:17,030 --> 00:35:14,640
missions that we did most of which

988
00:35:20,550 --> 00:35:17,040
atlantis did by the way

989
00:35:23,109 --> 00:35:20,560
there's a whole realm of lessons that we

990
00:35:24,710 --> 00:35:23,119
have very well documented

991
00:35:25,990 --> 00:35:24,720
and i think

992
00:35:27,670 --> 00:35:26,000
you know we will

993
00:35:29,270 --> 00:35:27,680
absolutely

994
00:35:30,550 --> 00:35:29,280
get the greatest benefit from those and

995
00:35:32,230 --> 00:35:30,560
that will be part of the greatest

996
00:35:33,349 --> 00:35:32,240
benefit that the shuttle provides going

997
00:35:35,829 --> 00:35:33,359
forward is

998
00:35:37,589 --> 00:35:35,839
is being able to launch off of those

999
00:35:39,430 --> 00:35:37,599
of those lessons learned

1000
00:35:40,710 --> 00:35:39,440
and and being able to really leverage

1001
00:35:44,630 --> 00:35:40,720
that

1002
00:35:45,589 --> 00:35:44,640
in new development of new capability

1003
00:35:47,430 --> 00:35:45,599
so

1004
00:35:49,109 --> 00:35:47,440
finally todd we certainly have come a

1005
00:35:52,550 --> 00:35:49,119
long way since the first spacewalk that

1006
00:35:54,950 --> 00:35:52,560
we did in a station assembly mission

1007
00:35:58,150 --> 00:35:54,960
it would take me much longer to go into

1008
00:35:59,670 --> 00:35:58,160
the details of of all of those areas but

1009
00:36:02,230 --> 00:35:59,680
i hope i've answered your question in

1010
00:36:05,109 --> 00:36:02,240
terms of in general um

1011
00:36:07,349 --> 00:36:05,119
kind of the the sentiment um

1012
00:36:09,109 --> 00:36:07,359
in that regard

1013
00:36:11,349 --> 00:36:09,119
yeah thanks very much leroy and that's

1014
00:36:12,870 --> 00:36:11,359
all from me kyle okay thanks we're back

1015
00:36:14,790 --> 00:36:12,880
here for any wrap-ups bill do you still

1016
00:36:16,950 --> 00:36:14,800
have a question

1017
00:36:18,630 --> 00:36:16,960
okay anybody else

1018
00:36:20,550 --> 00:36:18,640
all right a couple of quick programming

1019
00:36:23,109 --> 00:36:20,560
notes uh the crew heads to bed again

1020
00:36:25,349 --> 00:36:23,119
about six o'clock today we'll start the

1021
00:36:26,870 --> 00:36:25,359
flight day highlights package at 8 pm

1022
00:36:29,270 --> 00:36:26,880
central and

1023
00:36:30,150 --> 00:36:29,280
on the hour every hour as usual we'll

1024
00:36:31,829 --> 00:36:30,160
also

1025
00:36:33,349 --> 00:36:31,839
replay the launching our dream space

1026
00:36:35,589 --> 00:36:33,359
shuttle program video if you haven't

1027
00:36:37,270 --> 00:36:35,599
seen that that'll air at 10 pm

1028
00:36:39,430 --> 00:36:37,280
uh central time

1029
00:36:41,990 --> 00:36:39,440
and of course the lone plan space walk

1030
00:36:45,589 --> 00:36:42,000
that leroy outlined for you

1031
00:36:47,589 --> 00:36:45,599
begins about 7 45 a.m tomorrow and it's

1032
00:36:49,109 --> 00:36:47,599
a six and a half hour planned space walk

1033
00:36:50,630 --> 00:36:49,119
and that will be followed by a mission

1034
00:36:52,310 --> 00:36:50,640
status briefing

1035
00:36:54,230 --> 00:36:52,320
following the space walk with the flight

1036
00:36:56,870 --> 00:36:54,240
director on the station side an eva

1037
00:36:58,630 --> 00:36:56,880
officer to detail what happened during

1038
00:36:59,829 --> 00:36:58,640
the eva that's at 3 30 tomorrow

1039
00:37:01,349 --> 00:36:59,839
afternoon

1040
00:37:02,950 --> 00:37:01,359
and of course all that's on the

1041
00:37:04,870 --> 00:37:02,960
television schedule and we're working

1042
00:37:07,030 --> 00:37:04,880
feverishly to

1043
00:37:09,430 --> 00:37:07,040
build a new tv schedule with the extra

1044
00:37:11,670 --> 00:37:09,440
day added into it that'll be revision e

1045
00:37:13,750 --> 00:37:11,680
so look for that either late tonight or

1046
00:37:15,589 --> 00:37:13,760
first thing in the morning with that

1047
00:37:18,390 --> 00:37:15,599
well thank leroy we'll be back later in

1048
00:37:20,390 --> 00:37:18,400
the flight with another mmt briefing

1049
00:37:22,870 --> 00:37:20,400
when we get closer to focused our late

1050
00:37:24,550 --> 00:37:22,880
inspection activities and

1051
00:37:26,150 --> 00:37:24,560
thank everybody for coming we'll head

1052
00:37:30,470 --> 00:37:26,160
back to mission control and back to

1053
00:37:35,109 --> 00:37:32,870
hi i'm josh keeley i'm bill hebner i'm

1054
00:37:37,030 --> 00:37:35,119
ian anchondu and i'm bobby jarvis we are

1055
00:37:39,510 --> 00:37:37,040
the team three ecoms on the final